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#544855 - 2005-07-03 05:06:20 今年是否能順利懷孕?
wishcomestrue 離線
見龍在田
註冊: 2005-05-02
文章數: 81
您好,

想請問今年是否能順利懷孕?


謝謝!


附加檔案
1237868-mychart1.GIF




編輯者: ikarikun (2005-07-03 06:18:28)
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#544856 - 2005-07-03 05:43:45 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
wishcomestrue 離線
見龍在田
註冊: 2005-05-02
文章數: 81
1.本人自占:是
2.姓別:女
3.出生年次、生肖及太陽星座: 66年,屬馬,天蠍座
4.職業:設計
5.現居地:舊金山
6.您想到這問題的時間: 9:07pm
7.您的出生年月日時:66/10/30 ...12pm
8.疑問:想請問今年是否能順利懷孕?

謝謝!
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#544857 - 2005-07-03 06:40:54 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
day lord: saturn<br />hour lord: moon<br /><br />應該可以<br />如果現在不是懷了孕<br />就看看明年大約二月吧
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來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
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ikarikun

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#544858 - 2005-07-03 06:47:38 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
wishcomestrue 離線
見龍在田
註冊: 2005-05-02
文章數: 81
Hi there,

Thank you very much for your fast reply!

Just wondering is there a chance for me to get pregnant late this year between the months of Oct - Dec?

Because those will be the months that I'll go visit my boyfriend in Taiwan again.

Sorry to write in English as my computer can't write in Chinese.

THANKS ALOT!
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#544859 - 2005-07-04 17:37:19 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
viv 離線
或躍在淵
註冊: 2003-01-19
文章數: 213
可是月亮在29度。。。。?

這不是關鍵點嗎?

ikarikun大大用的是自創新法?
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#544860 - 2005-07-05 12:53:26 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
大大所言什是 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs_up.gif" alt="" /><br />走漏眼呢 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stretchTongue.gif" alt="" />
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544861 - 2005-07-05 15:19:41 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
viv 離線
或躍在淵
註冊: 2003-01-19
文章數: 213
ikarikun大大言重了,我看见大大常用day lord &hour lord这个方法,准确率还蛮高的。所以好奇是否是大大自创的新法,能否分享一下心得呢?呵呵。

刚刚在论坛发现一个关于论断怀孕的英文资料(卜卦类)的贴文,还没来得及细看,赶快贴出来。不好意思因在网吧,无法使用繁体写文。^^

Traditional Aphorisms for Pregnancy Charts

'Will I ever have a child?' - sooner or later all horary astrologers are confronted by this question, but before they attempt to answer it they should first reflect upon how emotive and sensitive the issue can be. Pregnancy charts touch upon fundamental issues connected with life and death and require a great degree of delicacy in the way that they are dealt with. Some astrologers feel that it is better to avoid certain aspects of this topic altogether - a pregnant woman asking if everything will be O.K., for example, leaves the astrologer in a terrible predicament if miscarriage is foreseen in the chart. In such instances there is a need to discriminate between the querent's wish to know the future and the degree to which it may safely be foretold. On the other hand, if someone genuinely and sincerely wants to understand about a particular problem, and wants to learn of ways in which it can be alleviated, then horary should certainly furnish the answer.

One modern-day complication that you won't find dealt with in Christian Astrology is that, whereas it may once have been a case of being 'fertile' or 'barren' and living with the consequences, today's society no longer expects women to sit back and let nature take its course. Infertility is a widespread problem, affecting one in six couples, but major advances such as the use of in-vitro fertilisation can often help to find a solution. Treatments can be terribly expensive, traumatic and unreliable however, which is why our ethical dilemma is not solved by simply refusing to answer awkward questions - the querent may have a real need to know the truth, even if it is hurtful and distressing at the time.

One practical suggestion is to consider redefining the limits of certain questions. For example I refused to answer my sister's question 'Will I ever have a child?' but agreed to judge a more immediate horary 'will I have a child this year?', feeling that I could only give her an honest and unbiased answer on those terms. Another thing we can do is to heed the advice implicit in the chart, by taking note of the planetary hour-ruler and paying close attention to the traditional 'Considerations before Judgement'. Because they have such a strong emotional pull, pregnancy charts usually produce beautifully clear and striking symbolism, but that does not mean it is appropriate to pass the answer to the client undiluted; if the chart has a 'stricture' such as an early or late ascendant, take this as a warning, not that the chart is wrong necessarily, but that you need to be careful in how you venture your judgement.

The aphorisms that follow detail Lilly's main considerations for dealing with pregnancy charts. Most of them rest upon the condition of the 5th house, the traditional house of pregnancy and children. Where you are advised to beware of an infortune, remember that this can be any planet that is detrimentally placed. All bad aspects of the lord of the 6th, 8th or 12th, for example, can be regarded as an affliction, even if the planet is naturally regarded as benefic, and especially if that planet is affected by bad aspects and is peregrine or in detriment. Conversely, Saturn and Mars, the traditional malefics, are not inevitably unfortunate. If they are well placed, strong in essential dignities and direct in motion they can be relied upon to show the more positive sides of their natures. In general however, it is the fortunes that we hope to see strong and well-placed in pregnancy charts: Jupiter, the natural significator of children, and Venus, the natural significator of fertility.

Indications of Pregnancy:

Pregnancy is shown by some kind of promising aspect (conjunction, sextile, trine or square) between the asc-ruler or Moon with the 5th house ruler. (Be careful, however, if the 5th-ruler is applying to, or is in aspect with, an unfortunate or detrimented planet as this will suggest difficulties and problems.) If there is no application look for some kind of translation, collection or antiscion relationship by or from the principal significators, which may show delayed success. The latter is a promising sign, but is not as good as a direct application between the main significators. Other positive indications are:

o Fruitful signs upon the ascendant or 5th cusp (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces).
o 5th-ruler or Moon in 1st house.
o 1st-ruler or Moon in 5th house.
o 1st-ruler in 1st, 5th, 10th or 11th house, if it aspects well-placed benefics and Jupiter is strong in the chart.
o The above, but with 1st-ruler in 4th or 7th house, suggesting that pregnancy will occur but will be delayed.
o Benefic planets in the 1st house, or angular, or in a promising aspect with 1st-ruler (look for Jupiter, Venus or Sun well placed, dignified and direct, and preferably in a sextile or trine with a principal significator).
o Jupiter in the ascendant or free from affliction in a strong house (providing it is not in a barren sign - see below).
o The asc in a fixed sign with a fortune placed in the first house or the 5th-ruler strong in the asc or MC.
o Venus in the 5th, free from affliction.
o Lord of the hour angular, in reception with the ruler of his angle; or in the 5th or 11th house in reception with the respective rulers.
o 1st-ruler, 5th-ruler or Moon in aspect with, and in reception with, an essentially dignified planet in an angle (Lilly warns that in these judgements accidental dignity gives hopes, but no real assurance).
o Asc-ruler in good aspect to ascendant or Moon in a good house and in a favourable aspect to a beneficial planet in an angle.
o Moon in good aspect to 5th cusp or having essential dignity there.

Lilly also mentions another method of judging pregnancy using the planet from which the Moon last separated and that to which it next applies: if the Moon's last planet rules the 5th sign from the position of the Moon's next planet, and there is an application or aspect between the two, the pregnancy will be successful. If this is the case but there is no aspect, yet the planet to which the Moon applies is angular, the pregnancy will be successful. He also notes that if the dispositor of the main significator is well placed and strong it increases the arguments for success.


Indications of Infertility:

o 'Barren' signs on asc or 5th cusp. (Lilly lists barren signs as Leo, Virgo and Gemini, adding Aries, Taurus, Libra, Sagittarius, Capricorn and Aquarius as signs that signify few children. Dorotheus says of Scorpio that it abounds in children 'and in deaths for them' ).
o Infortunes or detrimented planets in the 1st house with the 1st-ruler poorly placed and Jupiter weak or unfortunate.
o Moon, 1st-ruler, 5th-ruler or hour-ruler unfortunate and badly afflicted.
o An infortune in the 5th denies pregnancy unless it is direct, swift, dignified and generally well-placed.
o 5th-ruler retrograde, combust, peregrine or otherwise unfortunate shows problems connected with children.
o Jupiter afflicted in the 5th house indicates that the woman is not pregnant or that the pregnancy will not be successful. The same if Venus is afflicted by Mars or Saturn, is under the Sun's beams or is combust. A fortune in the 5th house, however, mitigates unfortunate indications and improves the chance of a successful pregnancy.
o Saturn, Mars or especially South Node in the 1st or 5th house. Lilly says that South Node in the 5th house usually shows abortion (miscarriage), in the 1st house extreme fear and mistrust of it. o 5th-ruler retrograde, cornbust or cadent from its sign or exaltation.
o Saturn or Mars in opposition to the 5th-cusp or 5th-ruler denies pregnancy, their square aspect hinders it.
o 1st-ruler conjunct or aspecting a retrograde or combust planet, or one in a cadent house.


Will I ever have a Child?


If the querent has been trying for a child for a long time without success her chances of pregnancy are good if she has:

o 1st-ruler or 5th-ruler in 7th.
o 5th-ruler or 7th-ruler in 1st.
o Moon with 7th-ruler.

Timing:


o To see how many years before a woman has a child, judge by the house position of the 5th-ruler, i.e., the 1st house indicates the 1st year, the 2nd house indicates the 2nd year, and so on. The nature of the sign should also influence the judgement: moveable signs hasten time, common signs are less swift and fixed signs are slow. Above all consider whether the significator is swift in motion and direct, which is the best indication of speed.
o Venus or some other fortune, unafflicted in the 5th house suggests an early pregnancy. The nearer a fortune is to the ascendant, the sooner the pregnancy will occur. The more remote, the more time must be allowed.
o Mars well dignified in the 7th house suggests the woman is newly conceived. If a woman is not sure how long she has been pregnant judge by the closest separating aspect between the Moon, 5th-ruler and hour-ruler. Trine = 3 or 5 months; Sextile = 2 or six months; square = 4 months; opposition = 7 months, conjunction = I month.
o The time of birth is often triggered by the transiting conjunction of the Sun or Mars with the 5th-ruler, Moon, asc or hour-ruler, or is sometimes shown by the querent's signiftcator changing signs.
Another method is to judge by how far the 5th-ruler is removed from the 5th cusp, allowing one month for each sign.
If you need to judge whether the birth will be by day or by night, go by the majority of significators; that is, whether they are in diurnal signs (showing a day birth) or nocturnal signs (night birth).


Twins

o Twins are indicated by common signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces) on the 1st or 5th house cusp, with a fortune placed inside the house. More so when the Sun, Moon or 5th-ruler are also in common signs.
o North Node conjunct Jupiter or Venus in the 5th house can indicate twins, the same is true if one of these casts a partile (within 1 degree) sextile or trine to the degree ascending or 5th house cusp.
o Fixed signs on the asc or 5th cusp deny twins.
o Moveable signs on the asc or 5th cusp, with the Sun and Moon inside these houses, also denies twins.

Sex of Child:

Look for strong indications, shown by a collection of testimonies, i.e., 1st-ruler, 5th-ruler, hour-ruler and Moon all in a masculine sign, degree or quarter would indicate a male child and vice-versa. Additional considerations are:

o Jupiter. in the 7th suggests a male child.
o Pisces or Sagittarius on the 7th cusp indicates a female.
o Moon in the 5th applying to Jupiter or Venus signifies a girl.
o Of the signs, masculine signs denote male children; feminine signs denote female children.
o Of the planets, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars and Sun denote male children, Venus and the Moon denote female children. Mercury varies according to its aspects and position.


**** Always form your judgement upon the majority of testimonies. If the indications look equally balanced - defer judgement.
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#544862 - 2005-07-06 05:14:16 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
用 Planetary hour 來驗証問題是一種不錯的選擇<br />最基本上會知道這問題是否有參考價值
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544863 - 2005-07-06 15:55:42 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
viv 離線
或躍在淵
註冊: 2003-01-19
文章數: 213
謝謝ikarikun大大的解答,
這問題是否有參考價值的標準是固定的嗎?還是因人因事而異?
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#544864 - 2005-07-07 13:41:02 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
用hour lord 可以推測星盤是否radical<br />radical 的星盤都可作日後"賽後撿討"<br />但它只是其中一種而已
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544865 - 2005-07-09 02:47:54 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
Rose_wang 離線
三陽開泰
註冊: 2005-07-09
文章數: 3352
來自: 呆呆星球
請教ikarikun大大,要如何推測星盤是否radical呢?

ps hour lord 能從軟件上直接看嗎?

偶是viv:)
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#544866 - 2005-07-09 05:16:10 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
hour lord 要用另一種free software "RF_PopHR"<br />是否 radical 就要看圖及問題是否相連<br />通常 non-radical chart 答對也學不到什麼<br />西方的Horary 不太主張解答 non-radical chart<br />無因又何來有果?<br />有"因"而起"念"再而"問"的星盤才有學習價值及Logical<br />否則你不能知道自己所學是否正確<br />也看不出自己是否誤解前人的理論
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544867 - 2005-07-09 11:16:30 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
Rose_wang 離線
三陽開泰
註冊: 2005-07-09
文章數: 3352
來自: 呆呆星球
ikarikun大大說的極是
>>>>是否 radical 就要看圖及問題是否相連
這個估計還練習一段時間才能有所領悟:P


另外
我還要請教大大一個問題
如果命主象徵星和月亮
都比較無力的情況下
而問題的象徵星非常強烈
那要如何取捨呢
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#544868 - 2005-07-09 13:35:20 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
>> 如果命主象徵星和月亮<br />>> 都比較無力的情況下<br />>> 而問題的象徵星非常強烈<br />>> 那要如何取捨呢 <br /><br />這個問題太廣泛<br />不同情況有不同取捨<br />但當你明白問題是問什麼而星圖又radical <br />你自然就懂得要看什麼才"合邏輯"<br />當然如果是"無因果關係"的問題就同求簽一樣<br />"一切隨緣"<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pray.gif" alt="" /><br />亦不需要辛辛苦苦學horary astrology
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544869 - 2005-07-09 13:56:16 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
Rose_wang 離線
三陽開泰
註冊: 2005-07-09
文章數: 3352
來自: 呆呆星球
ikarikun大大說得是
讓一切隨緣吧

我是突然對本命盤沒感覺了
才轉來horary的

另外再加上發生了一件令我感到很驚奇的事情
從此本人就拜倒在horary的石榴裙下啦

呵呵
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#544870 - 2005-07-09 14:08:27 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
原則上有"因果關係" 的horary chart就個人而言準確度極高<br />而且通常結果都會好快知道<br />是非常好玩 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clap.gif" alt="" /><br />雖然我經常也走漏眼,呵呵 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/coldsweat.gif" alt="" />
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544871 - 2005-07-09 14:24:47 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
Rose_wang 離線
三陽開泰
註冊: 2005-07-09
文章數: 3352
來自: 呆呆星球
ikarikun大大所說的因果關係
是不是“無事不問 有事才問”

照這樣看來horary也不是隨隨便便的噢

縂覺大大好可愛

呵呵^^
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#544872 - 2005-07-09 15:09:47 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
隨隨便便問問題<br />答案便隨隨便便 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />不是不可以隨便問<br />只是準確度下降到50%而已 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dontknow.gif" alt="" />
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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#544873 - 2005-07-10 03:41:51 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
Rose_wang 離線
三陽開泰
註冊: 2005-07-09
文章數: 3352
來自: 呆呆星球
是啊
問主越是急於知道答案的事情
盤也就越明顯

下載了一個RF_PopHR
可是不曉得如何順服它
不知道如何設定時間以及default時間和地點
大大救命啊
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#544874 - 2005-07-10 08:14:43 Re: 今年是否能順利懷孕?
ikarikun 離線

亢龍有悔
註冊: 2001-04-22
文章數: 903
來自: 木星
順利安裝的話應該會見到兩個 EXE<br />rf_phour.exe<br />rf_pophr.exe<br />行rf_phour.exe 可以查某年月日的day lord & hour lord<br />行rf_pophr.exe 會見到現在的planetary hour 及今天的hour lord list<br /><br />好像沒什麼問題 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
_________________________
來了的人去了
去了的人又來
又來的人仍在
仍在的人不在
不在的人來了
..............

ikarikun

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