Michael Bloomberg (Bloomberg L.P. 總裁與創立人)

彭博剛在2001/11/06當選新任的紐約市市長，他是一位傑出的財經企業家。他所創辦的Bloomberg L.P.一年收益達25億美元，旗下員工超過八千多人，海外據點超過一佰多家，在財經資訊的提供上，彭博資訊一直是個中翹楚。而他本人十分富有，是美國第四十一位富豪（世界第八十二位）。根據Rois Rodden網站提供的資料，他是兩個孩子的爸，於1976年與Susan Brown結婚，1993年離婚，但前妻仍是其好友，且這次競選市長前妻也為他助選。父親是簿記員，母為家庭主婦，靠著助學貸款與泊車打工拿到John Hopkins大學工程學士，隨後又在Harvard Business School念了兩年。1966年在所羅門兄弟公司擔任債券交易員，1972年並成為合夥人，不久便管理所羅門兄弟的所有股票交易、銷售與資訊系統。在1981年所羅門兄弟被Phibro Corporation併購，彭博也被解職，彭博自己形容那是次卑鄙的政治手段。離開所羅門兄弟後，彭博利用自己的一千萬美元開始自己的事業。他說服美林採用他所建立的資料提供與分析系統。而這套系統為他定下財經資訊的江山，1981年10月離開所羅門兄弟創辦Innivative Market Systems，1986年5月正式更名為Bloomberg L.P.（資料出處www.bloomberg.com），1990年Bloomberg News開辦，1993年Bloomberg Radio開辦，1994年Bloomberg TV開辦，擁有完整的資訊媒體王國。而他也在事業版圖穩固後，開始對慈善事業與公共事務感到興趣。

Roid Rodden網站提出三個問題，尋求各方意見：

1. 他為何為億萬富豪？二宮無星且二宮主被土星刑剋。請與比較比爾蓋茲比較，看看是否能知道他由資訊科技成功的原因。

2. 他的自傳Bloomberg by Bloomberg是典型Horatio Alger故事。”努力工作，堅持，做最好，你也能成功！”對於他的成功一點也不敢到內疚。”我相信我的設計天分，銷售能力與經營能力是最傑出的。”這像是土星刑剋太陽三度的人嗎？

3. 他的命盤對於紐約市的未來又有何暗示呢？

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這個星盤結構相當緊密，從45度盤(45-degree dial)來看，可看出傳統占星術所不及的訊息：ASC＝木星＝火星＝月亮，太陽＝天王＝冥王。這種星象結構充滿了權力慾望與開創心。下面摘錄Reinhold Ebertin在The Combination of Stellar Influences(COSI)中的片段。

月=火

Strong inner tensions, will power, a nature imbued with fighting spirit.

Enterprises which have been started with vigor.

Marital differences.

月=木

The desire of social meetings, pleasure and rich living. Generosity and readiness to help others, business-ability.

Social successes, carrying out enterprises on a large scale

Marital differences(=火).

月=Asc

A love of change and variety.

A disharmonious relationship to the mother or wife.(=火)

火=木

A person successful in an enterprise, fortunate business deal or settlement.

The power to concentrate upon a particular aim or objective, energy, ambition.

火=Asc

Advancement in life by the use of force.

The forceful attainment of successes.

木=Asc

A harmonious personality.

日=天

A revolutionary spirit, a progressive mind. A sudden turn in life.

日=冥

The craving for rulership, the power of attainment.



推運上:（SA=Solar Arc Direction，p=secondary progression）

1976: SA金星=木星 (結婚)

1981: SA MC=月亮=火星 (遭解職，創辦新公司)

1986: SA ASC=木星，SA木星=ASC，SA MC=土星，

pASC沖太陽，太陽會p金星，p太陽會MC六合木星。(更名為Bloomberg L.P.)

1981~1985: p火會合木星。



詳細生平與討論請參考http://astrodatabank.com/NM/BloombergMike.htm

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　紐約市長彭博在昨天(2005/11/10)的普選投票日中，以百分之五十八對百分之三十八的兩成壓倒性優勢，擊敗民主黨對手佛瑞，打破一九九七年前市長朱利安尼以百分之十七勝過民主黨對手麥辛吉（Ruth Messinger）的紀錄，是歷來紐約市長選舉中雙方差距最大的一次選舉。

　彭博多金舉世有名，「富比士」雜誌估計他身價至少四十億美元，紐約「每日新聞」指出，彭博陣營截至八日為止的競選花費，約在六千六百三十萬美元，這還不包括八日晚間二十四萬九千七百六十五美元的慶功宴：報導也初估，彭博平均在每一位投票給他的選民身上，花了九十二美元。
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他的推運返照凶星到角點，常誤導占星家做出錯誤判斷。
若查看此時的太陽弧運＋中點，
可以知道彭博正當鴻運！
彭博的中點推運與當年我預測阿諾史瓦辛格當選加州州長的中點推運，
如出一轍！

彭博市長非常有錢，
然而他的二宮內無星，
而二宮主太陽受剋！
不知道現代占星家如何看待此一星象？
如用William Lilly計算歷歷的力量，
一樣可以發現太陽的力量極差！
Why？
呵呵... 一般人看到這個星象大概不敢說這個人會「很」有錢
想想吧～訣不單用，
我看過不少學現代占星或者學威廉歷歷的同好，
有個大問題就是只用單訣、單星來解釋命盤...
的確占星光用單訣單星常常效果很好，
但「相不獨論」，看命盤也是，
看倌不妨想想，想通了，相信對自己的功力必有提升。

這議題有趣,不如大家一同研究看看.
不知網路上西方的占星師有沒有對彭博的星盤為何有錢提出解說?

我來掰一下:
財主日刑火土天王,先天窮困.
財主日近水月,水月合木星與海王似呈大三角.對財主日而言,可運用水月的盤象轉化造命,因海3宮及水會月皆表示對資訊的傳遞,故從事資訊傳遞的事業,成就財富指日可待.

呵呵～轉幾篇外國人的意見

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這一篇提出了彭博與比爾蓋茲星盤的相似度，
認為日、月、天、冥、角點連結到2、8、5宮上。

Alan Bitker：
Interestingly, both Bloomberg and Gates have 26 Cancer rising which places US Pluto on their Descendants. Both have their chart ruling Moons strongly configured; Gates with Mars, Uranus and the Midheaven and Bloomberg with his Sun, Mercury and Mars. Both have Uranus aspecting their Ascendants and squaring their Suns. In both charts, the Sun rules the 2nd house and Uranus rules the 8th house. Each has a strong Pluto ruling his 5th house; Gates has Pluto conjunct Jupiter which is part of a midpoint structure involving Venus, Saturn and Mars, while Bloomberg's Pluto opposes Venus and trines his Midheaven. Thus, in both charts,the Sun and Moon, Uranus, Pluto and the angles become connected with the personal wealth 2nd,the business world 8th and the speculative risk-taking 5th houses. Also, in both charts, there are planets in degrees symbolized by the pursuit and/or achievement of wealth. See Bloomberg's Saturn in 22 Taurus and his Mercury in 15 Aquarius while noting Gates's Sun in 5 Scorpio.
With Saturn squares to planets, noted above, in both charts and with each of their Moons in hard aspect to Mars, we find hard-working and outspoken characters.

這篇用的是宇宙生物學與漢堡學派的觀點，
呵呵... 西洋占星的格局觀出現了！
彭博擁有很明顯的財富、成功格局。
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Lea Breuer：
Let us use Uranian Astrology, Cosmobiology, the 90 degree and 22:30 degree dials for analysis, Witte's RPP and Ebertin's COSI for cookbook interpretations.

1. What makes this the chart of a Mega millionaire?

On the 90 degree dial we find:
MC = Jupiter/Pluto
天頂＝木/冥 (Puka註：此中點結構非常非常非常重要！若用Ebertin的速斷法，很快就知道今年彭博好運當頭！見我前面貼的推運中點)
Cosmobiologists call the Jupiter/Pluto combination "The Millionaire Syndrome". To quote COSI:
Jupiter/Pluto = The Desire for Power (Plutocracy)
MC=Jupiter/Pluto "Ambition, assiduity and industriousness, the desire to succeed as a manager. - Advantageous in one's occupation, advancement and promotion, great luck."
You can find further suitable descriptions in COSI, pages 176-177.

Uranian Astrologers will find many more "wealth" signatures in this chart. Some of the combinations that point to great wealth and success are:
Sun/Jupiter (The wealthy and successful man), Sun/Apollon (Business success, fame, honor), Jupiter/Kronos (Great money man,Lucky and successful manager), Jupiter/Apollon (Money through the trades or law, Grand capital), Jupiter/Vulcanus (The power of money and finances) , Apollon/Vulcanus (Strongest success, Great prosperity, Wealth)...

So, let us study those axes in this chart, 16 Harmonic, max orb = 15 minutes of arc, to find more:

in the 4th Harmonic : Sun/Jupiter = Jupiter/Vulcanus= MC/Asc (The social and vocational reationships. Motivation and resource).
In the 16th Harmonic the above "wealth" combinations are also equal :
Vp/Venus = Saturn = Apollon = Uranus/Zeus = Moon/Pluto = Asc/vulcanus = Mars/Uranus = Mc/Node = Mc/Cupido = Moon/Uranus = Venus/Neptune = Mars/Vulcanus.


Jupiter/Kronos = Moon (This combination is Equal his Moon, a personal Point, sharing it with the following:)
= Zeus (Master of productive work. Luck and good fortune through machines)
= Neptune/Poseidon (False pretence, Moving pictures, television) = Vp/Node (Worldly connections with many people)= Mars/Zeus (Creative work and activities, Technical science, Machines, Firearms)= Vp/cupido (Joint stock companies. Art, Sociability. The founder of corporations) = Moon/Mars (The active brain. The industrious populace. Creative constructive work)= Asc/Kronos (Employed in public service. Employed in a mechanical establishment)= Mc/Hades (The grieving populace. Grieving over public conditions. Having secrets. Creating disharmony. Having an urge to act on evil deeds. One's poverty)= Neptune/Cupido (Unhappy populace, Unfortunate parents. Large poor family. Dissonances in family or in associations. Shortage in housing)= Node/Neptune (Dissolution of unions, Secre organizations)

Jupiter/Apollon (Grand capital through) = Mercury/Uranus (electronic/hi-tech/Innovative - information/data/news/communications/ideas)= Mc/Zeus (My own creative ability, thirst for action, urge to work and accomplish great feats) = Mc/Moon (My own mind or psychological influence of women)= Vp/Uranus (which excite the world)= Jupiter/Saturn (Successful separation , real estate) = Venus/Hades (Servitude) = Neptune/Pluto (Sneaking transformations, secrecies) = As/Apollon(Having many customers. Matters in distant places. Acquaintances with representatives of commerce, trade and science)= Asc/Saturn = Mercury/Vulcanus (moving in Great speed. Mighty thinking) = Uranus/Neptune (revolution)= Sun/Mercury (for business people).

Mc =Sun/apollon = Apollon/Vulcanus (these two "wealth" combinations are equal his MC = most personal point)

From the above axes one can extract:

Mc (The "I", ego consciousness, "I am", "I have"...)
= Sun/Apollon (Successful, famous, derive honors and dignities, business success)= Apollon/Vulcanus (Strongest personal success, great prosperity, Wealth, Great influence, Enormous expansion, Exercise power)
= Sun+Jupiter-(Asc, Node, Cupido) (fortunate with others, wealthy connections, Support from successful people, Wealth through cooperation with others and through marriage, Business partners, Financial gains through corporations..)
= Jupier+Vulcanus-(Asc, Node, Cupido) (Instill hope, trust and courage in others, connected with trustworthy people, Great luck, happiness and money through art, family, corporations or community)= Jupite+Kronos-Hades(Accomplish much with little, Thriftiness, Gains in money from things taken out of the earth, owner of mines)= Jupiter+Apollon-(Zeus,Moon) (Successful in commerce and science, Prosperous work with large groups. Successful creation in art or science, stage success, The influence of high capital, Production favoured by high capital)

Vp (world axis, the native in the public eye) = Sun+Jupiter-Venus(Popular wealthy man) = Jupiter+vulcanus-Venus (Great fortunate love/popularity)= Jupiter+Kronos-Node (Ties with leading persons or with people who experience great luck)= Jupiter+Kronos-Cupido (Great money man, successful manager of great companies/corporations) = Jupiter+Apollon-Uranus (Sudden commencing of great gains and successes in trade or science. Good luck and success in technology)

And also:

Vp (world axis) = Uranus (High Technology, electronic..)= Mercury (Communication, Media, News, journalism, information) = Apollon/Admetos (Contentment)= Saturn/Admetos = Pluto/Vulcanus (Mighty changes and transformations which occur with great speed) = Mars/Hades (Abusive words, atrocities...) = Sun/Pluto(Striving for power, Qualities of leadership. Over estimation of self. Arrogance. Aspiring intellectual supremacy, prudence, organisation, consciousness of aim or objective. Restless creative activity, An orator or public speaker with suggestive powers.. Carrying out fanatic reforms without regard for oneself) = Mercury/Neptune (Idealism, Inventions, but also wrong thinking and lies, lack of clarity)= Uranus/Vulcanus (Electrical energies. thnderbolt. Mighty tension. News which create sudden excitement. Acting quickly and forced to make quick decisions.)= Hades/Zeus (Industry)

這篇以印度占星來論，
提到三、十一為財務建立的宮位，其宮主星金水同宮，而命主月亮也在此，
形成一個特別的格局(Yaga)，而火星在本宮牡羊，尤其巨蟹命度火為Yogakaraka
(Puka註意指Kendra與Trikona宮位的連結)，帶來成功、權力、領導、與財富。
二宮內有羅喉，代表物質的影響，而二宮主太陽入八宮，對二宮放出交角，
代表基本的生命力、靈魂能量(因太陽為此徵象星karaka)投注於二宮事務(財富)。
且命主月亮連結了三、十一，並放出交角到命宮，是很好的星象。火星在本宮牡羊，
又入十宮為Ruchaka Yoga格局。
(Puka註：火星在九律圖Navamsa上也入本宮天蠍，力量不可小覷！)
附圖為印度占星星盤。
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David Burrows：
The Vedic Chart does contain signatures for Wealth, Power and Political Savvy.
Cancer rising is good for politicians and those in the public eye, as the Moon is the friend to all. Houses 3 and 11 are wealth building houses. The house rulers, Mercury and Venus, combine in house 7 along with the Moon, forming a special yoga. The significanse here is that the chart ruler, the moon, is fused with the houses of "Gain" ( 3 and 11), indicating wealth. Then, this energy is reinforced or confirmed again by a mahapurusha yoga of Mars in Aries, bringing wealth, power, and leadership. This power of Mars in the chart is especially strong for a Cancer ascendant, for Mars is the "Yogakaraka" for Cancer. His Saturn in Vedic is debilitated in Aries in the 10th close to Mars. Saturn does not aspect the Sun in the Vedic calculation. It does rule the 7th house of relationships. Wanting to "go out and play" rather than continue with his marraige is a textbook description of a debilitated Saturn affecting someone's relationship. The dispositor of the Sun is Saturn--perhaps Saturn is just too weak to put a damper on his self-esteem. The second house contains Rahu, the north node of the moon, considered to be a materialistic influence or desire. The Sun in Aquarius in the eighth with the south node aspects the second house. So the basic life force, or soul energy, the Sun, is concerned with second house matters. The nodes being karmic in nature, this suggests a karmic influence in the involvement with Self in the areas of the 2nd house. (Opposition aspects have a different meaning in Vedic).
So with the chart ruler, the Moon, so intimately connected with the rulers of wealth producing houses, and with the Moon from the 7th house fully aspecting the ascendant, the power place of the chart, yes the astrologer would say wealth. With Mars, the most powerful planet for Cancer Rising, so powerfully placed giving Ruchaka Yoga(Mars in own sign or exalted and in an angle). And with the mysterious nodes and the Sun force tapped into the houses of resources, the 2nd and the 8th, there is a Vedic signature for wealth.

這篇用希臘占星觀點來看，使用整個星座宮位制，
福點會落在第一宮內，且十一宮代表財富，火土入內表努力工作致富，
十一宮主為金星，金星在數天前先日而出，
(Puka註：heliacal rising意指行星距離太陽大於約15~17度時，在東方先太陽而出，
也就是晨星，太陽還沒升起前，該星升起於東方，代表行星力量的增強，這是希臘占星很重要的理論，甚至可以彌補該星落入陷落Detriment的星座)
而土星在十一宮內與金星互容！此外木星落在十一宮內為Joy宮(Puka註：Joy 喜樂宮也是傳統占星的理論)，且木星在晝生者的命盤上落入陽宮
(Puka註：晝生人喜陽星入陽宮稱為in Hayz。
此人這邊有個小問題在於，木星若用整個星座制，是入十二宮。不過的確傳統占星常混用不等宮制與整個星座制)

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Marilynn：
A brief Hellenistic astrology note:

In Hellenistic astrology, using whole sign houses (which they did
for everything but assessing planetary strength (not Lot strength
or anything but planets), Bloomberg's Lot of Fortune is in the
1st house - which was considered a good place. Plus he earned
his money though hard work (Saturn,Mars in 11th) and through
being a motivational speaker (1st house). It is notable that
the ruler (Moon) is not aspecting the Lot. However, the ruler of
his 11th house (traditionally the house of wealth)
is Venus and Venus made a heliacal rising in the East a few days
before. This makes Venus very intense. And she is very strong
in the 7th house. Saturn in the 11th is in mutual reception to
Venus. Jupiter, traditionally a planet indicating wealth, is in
his joy in the 11th house (best place), which is a rejoicing
condition, along with being in a masculine sign in a day chart.
That is one kick-*** Jupiter! Venus could certainly be better
(in the whole sign 8th in a day chart is not good for Venusian
matters like romance), but she is very strong and intense.

天步兄的論法是很典型的現代占星論法，
巧妙的透過「選擇」「機會」「轉化」來論述人如何讓自己過的更好(造命)。
這個觀點很重要，是現代占星學最重要的觀念之一。

只是問題在於，是否每個人都能選擇呢？
如果可以，
我想選擇林志玲當老婆，
我想選擇郭台銘的財富，
我想選擇馬英九的帥氣，
...
呵呵～～～

在諮詢上，現代占星的轉化論真的很好用，因為巧妙的避過了宿命問題，
而又能讓自己免於預測的尷尬。

天步兄這邊的確點出三宮的特徵，相當符合彭博的事實，
但建議其他東西都可以考量，像是前面引述的中點論法、漢堡論法、希臘占星論法、印度占星論法，
這些可以加強我們看命盤的角度。
小小意見...

就跟puka兄所提的一樣：「我看過不少學現代占星或者學威廉歷歷的同好，有個大問題就是

只用單訣、單星來解釋命盤...」

同樣的，我覺得不管學古代占星或現代占星的人都不會活推一組相位的能量展現。尤其是九

十度的衝突—挑戰相位更需要分辨是追求社會成就的上半象限九十度相位，還是容易受傷害

害的下半象限九十度相位。如果是追求社會成就的上半象限九十度相位，根據外國的占星統

計，幾乎都有成為力求上進的經理人潛力。

以Bloomberg的星盤為例，土星往後碰到太陽代表是追求社會成就的上半象限九十度相位，

再加上土日宮位又落在上半象限的基本宮位七宮和十宮，當然就是會用超級盡職的工作

狂態度，來開創自己七宮服務眾人的十宮財經資訊事業，日後也可成為七宮服務市民的十宮

市長。

李兄提出了很好的觀點。
的確每個基礎都有可以揮灑的空間。

各種學派看待的角度不同，豐富了星學的研究。
這裡頭有幾個傳統就有的觀念，晝星與夜星的差異，
有興趣的可以參看<西天聿斯經>，或者<果老>對晝土夜火的論述（這是西方理論，非中國理論）
可以辨別統計到底是甚麼理論的表現。

如果用中世紀占星學的看法，
日月與土星相刑是received！受土之庇佑啊。(太陽 in Hayz)
土星就形成一個很重要的指標，這個指標落在十一宮（群體、財富）
與金星互容去串連（人際、公眾），與火星串連（事業、聲望、創造 10-5），
與太陽(財富 2）與月亮(我自己 1)
這些星落在寶瓶與金牛上，也正隱合資訊的傳播(寶瓶風象)與財金領域(金牛土象)。
他締造了財金資訊王國。

看了各家各派的論法，看倌們有沒有覺得很有趣啊？
呵呵～～～

八宮見月合cere
二主日飛

成聚於外之局

八飛土(十一)刑日月cere
其落入公司關係上

需要由他人或投資﹑保險﹑銀行等作財政管理
其人有不善管理財產的傾向
容易去財
但因合作運強，故能得幫助以找財

婚後，家庭的財力會好
否則，財來而不聚
只有空名

天步閒來練練基本功:

1宮冥:表現意志力
3宮海:靈修
7宮月水金:喜公共事務,婚姻和諧,但土月刑離婚之象.(離了婚的老婆也來助選.)
8宮日:關心神秘事物.
10宮火土天:工作踏實,追求社會地位,具有前衛的金錢觀,及美學鑑賞力.
11宮木:人緣佳,有利競選.
群星據上半圓:理性客觀.
固定宮90度相位:穩定性高,滲透力及創造力強.
風象星座120度相位:點子多,吸收力強,反應快.
風象大三角,協調力佳,善於傳遞資訊,從事公共關係或政治易成功.

看來也頗符合彭博的樣子,其中海3宮及日8宮,命主應有靈修,不知對不對?

我記得以前有人說過
Bill Gates 的木星近Rugulus，
(獅子27度多)
因此大富大貴。(也是本命看不出來)

不曉得是否適用於此人。

我用的是恆星。

看回上面的介紹

原來是合伙人的助力@@"""

可以怪的是，我根本不知道這是誰

xdd

小愚不懂占星,不過略懂紫微斗數,試以之踢踢板

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|相福亡光閣        |梁星鉞廚神空池  母|貞殺劫台座廉門  德|刑羅辰          宅|
|得              宮|廟廟            宮|利廟            宮|  陷            宮|
|                71|                72|                61|                62|
|2-11          癸巳|112-121       甲午|102-111       乙未|92-101        丙申|
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|巨陰天截寡      兄|                                     |祿天龍破      身官|
|門煞喜路宿      弟| 陰男國曆  31 年  2 月 14 日 申 時生 |存官池碎        祿|
|陷  廟          宮|                                     |廟            宮宮|
|祿              70| 辛巳農曆  30 年 12 月 29 日 申 時生 |              流63|
|12-21         壬辰|                                     |82-91         丁酉|
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|紫貪地左天      夫|                                     |天擎紅天封天    奴|
|微狼空輔貴      妻| 水二局[長流水] 生肖[蛇] 重  3兩 5錢 |同羊鸞傷誥才    僕|
|旺利            宮|                                     |平廟廟          宮|
|                69| 流年  94 歲次乙酉 大限己亥 虛歲  65 |                64|
|22-31         辛卯|                                     |72-81         戊戌|
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|機陰昌月魁輔壽  女|府哭虎蓋        帛|陽曲姚使        厄|曲軍星弼馬巫虛  移|
|得旺陷          宮|廟              宮|陷得            宮|平平利          宮|
|    忌          68|                67|權科            66|                65|
|32-41         庚寅|42-51         辛丑|52-61         庚子|62-71         己亥|
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puka大大~~~

那個90刻度盤要怎麼看啊?(如果用winstar的話)...

與45,22.5有什麼不同列???



(Puka註：heliacal rising意指行星距離太陽大於約15~17度時，在東方先太陽而出，
也就是晨星，太陽還沒升起前，該星升起於東方，代表行星力量的增強，這是希臘占星很重要的理論，甚至可以彌補該星落入陷落Detriment的星座)

>>>是因為沒有經過太陽的灼燒嗎嗎?

希臘占星什麼要提出這個觀點列???

(Puka註：火星在九律圖Navamsa上也入本宮天蠍，力量不可小覷！)

>>>為什麼偶用astrolog做的navamsa火星在雙子????


文章中所用的XX=XX/XX都是中點嗎?90度???

無意中發現一個好玩的東東...

行星在太陽前的多是科學家
行星在太陽後的多是藝術家...

難道是理性和感性的區別???

北印度盤