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#1710138 - 2014-05-21 06:33:26 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
八字妙算 離線
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小弟的日元, 究竟是強, 還是弱?

個人看法:都不是

胡言亂語:

這個八字,無論從哪個角度看,都是2D身旺(或稱身強)。

壬午大運:劫(自黨)坐才(異黨),無論身旺弱,其一必為喜,其一必為忌,任套無妨,怎說都得。

辛巳大運:偏印(自黨)坐財(異黨),表面上跟前一個大運的情況相近;但有些人卻認為巳酉化金,巳申又化水,於是此運變了一派自黨;命主在此運中求學,碩士畢業,比一般人好;身旺之說好像套不上,爭議開始來了。

庚辰大運:印坐官,身旺主凶,身弱主吉;命主自言於此運中能創業發財,算是符合了官印相生為喜的其中一個特徵;至此,為了套命,有些人可能不得不出“彈弓手”,變身成為身弱之說的支持者了。

明明是個2D身旺的八字,何解好像喜印?這在2D層面上的身旺弱論中是找不到答案的......
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#1710243 - 2014-05-21 16:42:40 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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#1710254 - 2014-05-21 20:53:53 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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#1710839 - 2014-05-24 14:25:53 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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#1710869 - 2014-05-24 19:35:20 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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12年生日後到13年生日前年總收入扣掉年總支出錢存進自己的帳戶比較多
或13年生日後到14年生日前年總收入扣掉年總支出錢存進自己的帳戶比較多

驗證後再給建議


各大師息怒, 小弟這兩天無暇上來. 沒有太刻意計算多少, 但應該是12至13年收入-支出錢存帳戶較多, 因為13年至14年開支好大了. 但13年至14年手持的股票又升了, 所以不太肯定
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#1710870 - 2014-05-24 19:37:10 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
Tiger Bunny 離線
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強弱根本不是重點了

乙木歸了未庫 七殺被化成了木

用神都遭破壞了

這叫做制殺太過


那依你看, 用神是什麼?
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#1710871 - 2014-05-24 19:58:03 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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Thanks for your response.

我一向於八字正格定旺弱時,較一般師傅多用幾個層次作區分:弱,中和偏弱,中和,中和偏旺,旺,強

貴造是中和偏旺,而不是旺,亦因為這原因,所以如果單純用旺弱區分便會很難定喜忌用神忌神,所以如果執著於單純用旺弱區分,便會有很多似是而非的看法

切記,不可單純用旺弱區分,否則很多細節都會錯過,或甚至批錯命


Got it, thank you very much I really appreciate it. So according to your analysis, both Wood and Fire elements improve my luck. Does Water element bring me some good luck as well?

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貴造用神為木,當然可以用火,因為木本性向陽,有火/陽光,才會有生發之機,你生於未月,火氣不弱;但從事設計的話,你的風格很可能是以實用為主,美感的比重反而較少,宜多花心思於美感方面,對業務有幫助(火主麗)


It is hard to take a practical balance between functionality and aesthetics in most designs, but I think I managed to do so in mine. Thanks for you advice I will bare this in mind.

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原局日元有氣,用神通根地支成半會局,但由於原局乙木被庚合絴,乙木為你的表現及想法,長期被合絴,代表你個性較為壓抑,不會容易表達自己的情感及想法,但只要甲庚一沖,合絴情況便得到解除,因此凡甲年時,你的事業都會較佳,人的情緒亦會較開心


While my Metal element keeps attacking my Wood in my pillars, can the female water element in my month pillar next to the wood element in the year pillar somehow neutralize the effect of the attack? As some Metal is being depleted to enrich Water, I suppose it will lower its devastating effect on my Wood? Moreover, being enriched by my Metal, my Water can also strengthen my Wood element. So the end result is that my Metal strengthens my Water which in turn strengthens my Wood, thus the severity of Metal cutting Wood is reduced?

回應:

除咗八字,我其實亦有玩斗數,不過今次粗略同你睇就只用八字

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Thanks very much again!
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#1710872 - 2014-05-24 20:12:20 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
Tiger Bunny 離線
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小弟的日元, 究竟是強, 還是弱?

個人看法:都不是

胡言亂語:

這個八字,無論從哪個角度看,都是2D身旺(或稱身強)。

壬午大運:劫(自黨)坐才(異黨),無論身旺弱,其一必為喜,其一必為忌,任套無妨,怎說都得。

辛巳大運:偏印(自黨)坐財(異黨),表面上跟前一個大運的情況相近;但有些人卻認為巳酉化金,巳申又化水,於是此運變了一派自黨;命主在此運中求學,碩士畢業,比一般人好;身旺之說好像套不上,爭議開始來了。

庚辰大運:印坐官,身旺主凶,身弱主吉;命主自言於此運中能創業發財,算是符合了官印相生為喜的其中一個特徵;至此,為了套命,有些人可能不得不出“彈弓手”,變身成為身弱之說的支持者了。

明明是個2D身旺的八字,何解好像喜印?這在2D層面上的身旺弱論中是找不到答案的......


謝謝大師分析. 依你高見, 應如何找答案? 如何在3D層面上找答案?
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#1710873 - 2014-05-24 20:13:53 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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#1710874 - 2014-05-24 20:14:22 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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#1710879 - 2014-05-24 23:41:15 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
蔡霹靂1 離線
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各大師息怒, 小弟這兩天無暇上來. 沒有太刻意計算多少, 但應該是12至13年收入-支出錢存帳戶較多, 因為13年至14年開支好大了. 但13年至14年手持的股票又升了, 所以不太肯定

身強無疑 今年運勢好 好好把握
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#1710889 - 2014-05-25 01:43:15 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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請樓主回憶在2006,2007年,(31,32 歲), 樓主的 財運‧,女緣 ,事業,是否最為稱心如意 ?

具体上發生了甚麼大事可否告之一,二,作為引正喜忌之用.

樓主的命局不只八個字, 還暗藏一個,是八加一!

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#1710903 - 2014-05-25 02:52:17 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
nelson466 離線
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強弱根本不是重點了

乙木歸了未庫 七殺被化成了木

用神都遭破壞了

這叫做制殺太過


那依你看, 用神是什麼?



根本沒有用神了

用食神嘛 食神無財可生

用七殺嘛 七殺無獨用之理

而且兩個東西在打架

這八字強或弱嘛 doesn't matter at all...got it?

你問強弱幹嘛? 強了又怎麼樣? 弱了又如何?
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#1710913 - 2014-05-25 03:53:19 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
kiki.Astrology 離線
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回應:
It is hard to take a practical balance between functionality and aesthetics in most designs, but I think I managed to do so in mine. Thanks for you advice I will bare this in mind.


讚

回應:
Got it, thank you very much I really appreciate it. So according to your analysis, both Wood and Fire elements improve my luck. Does Water element bring me some good luck as well?




回應:
While my Metal element keeps attacking my Wood in my pillars, can the female water element in my month pillar next to the wood element in the year pillar somehow neutralize the effect of the attack? As some Metal is being depleted to enrich Water, I suppose it will lower its devastating effect on my Wood? Moreover, being enriched by my Metal, my Water can also strengthen my Wood element. So the end result is that my Metal strengthens my Water which in turn strengthens my Wood, thus the severity of Metal cutting Wood is reduced?


I believe that you've spent quite a long time to study your own 8-words. Although you might not fully understand what's going on within those words, however I guess you must agree that there are two different forces exist in your 4 pillars. Those are: Wood+Fire, Metal+Water.

As I stated above, there are two different forces exist in your 4 pillars. Each words got their own missions. By understanding the relationships between each words, then you will know what's they want to achieve, what they want to get. Every single word has its own purpose. When the words with similar nature/ purpose become a group, the power of the group will be very strong (if compares with one single word).

The 癸水in your day-pillar represents yourself, the other one in month-pillar represents your father, close friends and business partner.

Let's talk about the 月令 first. 癸 born in 未 month, 未 is a month with strong elements of soil and fire. 乙卯exists in year-pillar, and the 卯 combines with 未, became a half wood group. This half Wood-group is strong(乙卯+卯未), Wood would consume 癸's power and make the 癸 in the day-pillar weaker. NOTE: when we talk about strong or weak, our focus is always on the upper word in the day-pillar.

Now, let's see if 癸 got any supports from other words. There is a column of metal exists in the hour-pillar: 庚申; the 癸 in the day-pillar is sitting above a piece of metal 酉; 申+酉= a half metal group, plus the 庚申 in the hour-pillar, the power of the metal is strong as well. Metal gives support to Water, it makes Water stronger.

On the other hand, the other 癸 (the one exists in the month-pillar), it also can provide support to the 癸 in the day-pillar. It is sitting above the half wood group, and there is a strong wood next to it. Therefore, the 癸 in the month-pillar is weaker than the one in day-pillar (the day-pillar one got direct support from the metal group). It avoids the 癸 in the day-pillar to lose power to the wood group directly.

Now, you should understand why I said your 8-words are quite balanced. But, we still need to find out which group dominates the trend of your 8-words. The wood group is strong because it occupied the month pillar position, however the metal group is strong as well because it provides direct support to the 癸 in the day-pillar directly without any interruption.

The most important thing is, now the 庚 is 合 with the 乙; the 乙 is like captured by the 庚, while the original purpose of the 乙 is to release 癸's power and make it weaker. Now, because of the action of the 庚, 乙 cannot perform its purpose effectively. This situation makes both 癸 cannot release their power, while keep getting support from the metal group. It makes the balanced situation became not so balanced (a bit strong than balanced).

8-words' theory works like Chinese Medical. Useful word is a medicine. Every 8-words reader should know the basic rule: release the power if it is strong; gain more support if it is weak. In your case, you need to release some power, so 乙 is the medicine. In the original situation, 乙 is always captured by the 庚, it means if you can release the 乙, then you will have good luck (it happened in 2004).

One key point which no body mentioned to you on this forum is, wood is your medicine and you got a very strong and pure wood in your 4-pillars (only female wood, no male wood). The pureness of your medicine dramatically increases its power. When the female wood got released (male metal got attack by male wood), it can perform its original purpose effectively. It also makes your level of life becomes higher (if compares with others) Congrats 微笑

The nature of wood needs water and fire (sun and warm climate). You were born in a fire month, it helps the wood grows better (木性向陽, 有水有火才有生發之機). However since the month has combined with the year-pillar and became a half wood-group. You need a bit more fire to help the wood develops better.

Wow... I wrote too much... Hopefully, I can clarify your doubt.

By the way, I've cross-checked with your purple math chart. You are right, your partner was very lucky in 2004. I guess he/she must gained more money than you in that particular year. Please share more details with me, if you don't mind.

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#1711022 - 2014-05-25 14:53:26 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
八字妙算 離線
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註冊: 2008-10-19
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依你高見, 應如何找答案? 如何在3D層面上找答案?

這要先從3D立體干支結構著手... ...

真實的八字格局與喜忌,往往是可以出乎大家意料之外的。我又在胡言亂語了。
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#1711052 - 2014-05-25 18:35:31 Re: 請教身強, 還是身弱?
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註冊: 2010-11-14
文章數: 2600
癸水坐酉金,月干癸水坐未幾近無力,時柱印星一氣助身,殺格用有力食神制之,以四柱而論偏身弱,喜得庚辰大運水庫助身當旺,正印透用與食神不斥格局,主要還是大運助身的功勞。

好一個食神制殺的八字~


編輯者: 紫色味道 (2014-05-25 18:36:15)
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